The Anti-Gun Crowd

  When seconds count between living or dying, the police are only minutes away." - Phillip Van Cleave October 30, 2007

When seconds count between living or dying, the police are only minutes away." - Phillip Van Cleave October 30, 2007

You have to love the anti-gun people.  Some of their logic is truly absurd.  But I recently got an email that I just had to agree with.  It puts the anti-gun folks logic into the light of day.  I keep hoping their brains will turn on the light and start to think.  If the day ever comes when they outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns…

I’ve tried to find out who wrote this, I’d love to give them credit, but since I haven’t found out who yet I hope they won’t mind if I put their words here.

Here is the email I received:

According to the anti-gun crowd we’re supposed to believe:

* That a punk wakes up one morning and thinks, “Gee instead of robbing, raping, sodomizing and killing a young woman, why don’t I turn my $400 gun in for $20 and a pizza and go work at McDonald’s?”
* That the more helpless you are the safer you are from criminals.
* That you should give a mugger your wallet because he doesn’t really want to shoot you and he’ll let you go but that you should give him your wallet because he’ll shoot you if you don’t.
* That despite all the outrage about Corporate America’s cavalier treatment of employees Domino’s Pizza’s demand that employees be unarmed is an altruistic effort to stop them from hurting themselves and not a calculated financial bid to avoid having a lawsuit filed by a dead robber’s family.
* That one can sue a store for having a slick floor, falling ceilings, and sharp corners, but if they refuse to let you bring a gun in and you get shot by a criminal they aren’t liable for enforcing that rule with others.
* That there is no right of self defense, but the police are not legally obligated to respond to my cries for help when disarmed, but you can sue them if they take too long to get to a traffic accident.
* That assault rifles are far too powerful to hunt deer and elk and too dangerous for private citizens to own but are too impotent for modern warfare, too weak to reliably kill soldiers, and have no place in the concept of a citizen reserve.
* That the preferred weapon of a drug user is a $25 .22 pocket pistol and the preferred weapon of a drug dealer is a $2000 machine gun.
* That any cheap weapon is a “Saturday night special” and any expensive weapon is an “assault weapon.”
* That “Cops” and other shows are edited to show the boring encounters with traffic stops and the occasional drunken fool with a revolver in his pocket and never show the millions of cases where the cops are gunned down in droves by machine gun toting drug dealers.
* That “NYPD Blue” and “Miami Vice” are documentaries.
* That an intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray but if shot with a .44 Magnum will get angry and kill you.
* That firearms in the hands of private citizens are the gravest threat to world peace, and China, Pakistan and Korea can be trusted with nuclear weapons.
* That Charlton Heston as president of the NRA is a shill who should be ignored but Michael Douglas as a representative of Handgun Control Inc. is an ambassador for peace who is entitled to an audience at the UN arms control summit.
* That ordinary people in the presence of guns turn into slaughtering butchers and revert to normal when the weapon is removed.
* That someone who fails to clear his weapon, fails to point it in a safe direction, pulls the trigger without checking the chamber, and blows his foot off is an example of how even a “trained professional” can be a “victim” of a diabolical gun but people in the military who clean weapons millions of times a year without getting hurt are “dumb grunts.”
* That the New England Journal of Medicine is filled with expert advice about guns just like Guns and Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery.
* That one should consult an automotive engineer for safer seat belts, a civil engineer for a better bridge, a surgeon for spinal paralysis, and Sarah Brady for firearms expertise.
* That the best thing our kids can do to bullies and drug dealers is “just say no” and fight back and the best thing we can do to bullies and drug dealers is to give them $50 and wait for them to go away.
* That it’s outrageous that the Milwaukee police took 45 minutes to respond to reports of Jeffrey Dahmer’s last victim running around naked in the cold then returned him to his attacker without checking ID but the best thing a citizen can do in an emergency is dial 911.
* That the “right of the people peaceably to assemble,” the “right of the people to be secure in their homes,” “the enumeration herein of certain rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people,” “The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively and to the people” refer to individuals but “the right of the people to keep and bear arms” refers to the states.
* That the 2nd Amendment ratified in 1791 allows the states to have a National Guard created by act of Congress in 1916.
* That the National Guard, paid by the federal government, occupying property leased to the federal government, using weapons owned by the federal government, punishing trespassers under federal law, is a state agency.
* That private citizens can’t have handguns because they serve no militia purpose even though the military has hundreds of thousands of them and private citizens can’t have assault rifles because they are military weapons.
* That it is reasonable for California to have a minimum 2 year sentence for possession but not using an assault rifle, and reasonable for California to have a 6 month minimum sentence for raping a female police officer.
* That it is reasonable to jail people for carrying, but not using, guns but outrageous to jail people for possessing marijuana.
* That minimum sentences violate civil rights unless it’s for possessing a gun.
* That door-to-door searches for drugs are a gross violation of civil rights and a sign of fascism but door-to-door searches for guns are a reasonable solution to the “gun problem.”
* That the first amendment absolutely allows child pornography and threats to kill cops but doesn’t apply to manuals on gun repair.
* That a woman in a microskirt, perfume and a Wonderbra, without underwear, is a helpless victim but someone getting paid $6 an hour to deliver the cash from a fast food place to the bank at the same time every night is “asking for it.” And you won’t allow either of them to carry a gun.
* That Illinois’ law that allows almost any government official from Governor to dogcatcher to carry a gun is reasonable and the law that prohibits any private citizen, even one with 50 death threats on file and a million dollar jewelry business, is unreasonable. And it isn’t a sign of police state.
* That the 80 religious kooks in Waco were a threat to American security but snipers killing them as they left the building machine-gunning children, hiding the video evidence, possibly torching the building on purpose, and having no case to present in federal court is good law enforcement. And it isn’t a sign of police state.
* That free speech entitles one to own newspapers, transmitters, computers, and typewriters, but self defense only justifies bare hands.
* That with the above, a 90 LB woman attacked by a 300 LB rapist and his 300 LB buddy has the “right” to kill them in self defense provided she uses her bare hands.
* That there’s nothing in the Constitution that specifically prohibits banning certain guns but there is something in the Constitution that specifically prohibits banning certain sex acts.
* That gun safety courses in school only encourage kids to commit violence but sex education in school doesn’t encourage kids to have sex.
* That the ready availability of guns today, with only a few government forms, waiting periods, checks, infringements, ID, and fingerprinting, is responsible for all the school shootings compared to the lack of school shootings in the 1950’s and 1960’s which was caused by the awkward availability of guns at any hardware store, gas station, and by mail order.
* That we must get rid of guns because a deranged lunatic may go on a shooting spree at any time and anyone who owns a gun out of fear of such a lunatic is paranoid.
* That there is too much explicit violence featuring guns on TV and that cities can sue gun manufacturers because people aren’t aware of the dangers involved with guns.
* That the gun lobby’s attempt to run a “don’t touch” campaign about kids handling guns is propaganda and the anti-gun lobby’s attempt to run a “don’t touch” campaign is responsible social activity.
* That the crime rate in America is decreasing because of gun control and the increase in crime requires more gun control.
* That 100 years after its founding, the NRA got into the politics of guns from purely selfish motives and 100 years after the Emancipation Proclamation the black civil rights movement was founded from purely noble motives.
* That statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control and statistics that show increasing murder rates after gun control are “just statistics.”
* That we don’t need guns against an oppressive government because the Constitution has internal safeguards and we should ban and seize all guns therefore violating the 2nd, 4th, 5th and 9th Amendments of that Constitution becoming an oppressive government.
* That guns are an ineffective means of self defense for rational adults but in the hands of an ignorant criminal become a threat to the fabric of society.
* That guns are so complex to use that special training is necessary to use them properly and so simple to use that they make murder easy.
* That guns contribute to high death rates and should be banned but tobacco and alcohol are okay.
* That guns cause crime which is why there has never been a mass slaying at a gun show.
* That guns cause crime just like matches cause arson.
* That guns cause crime just like women cause prostitution.
* That guns cause crime just like men cause rape.
* That guns aren’t necessary to national defense which is why the army only has 3 million of them.
* That banning guns works which is why New York, DC, and Chicago cops need guns against armed criminals.
* That the Constitution protects us so we don’t need guns and can confiscate them thereby violating the 5th amendment of that constitution.
* That women are just as intelligent and capable as men and a woman with a gun is “an accident waiting to happen.”
* That women are just as intelligent and capable as men and gunmaker’s advertisements aimed at women are “preying on their fears.”
* That a handgun, with up to 4 switches and controls, is far too complex for the typical adult to learn to use as opposed to an automobile that only has 20.
* That handguns are useful only for murder which is why the police and military define them as defensive weapons.
* That neighbors who carry guns against the occasional lunatic are paranoid because of the perfectly justifiable fear that every single one of them is waiting to turn into a lunatic.
* That a majority of the population supports gun control just like a majority of the population used to support owning slaves.
* That one should ignore as idiots politicians who confuse Wicca with Satanism and exaggerate the gay community as a threat to society but listen sagely to politicians who can refer to a self-loading small arm as a “weapon of mass destruction” and an “assault weapon.”
* That there is no absolute right to a weapon documented historically because the British government used to prohibit Catholics from owning guns. And that wasn’t a sign of religious bigotry.
* That rifles with pistol grips are assault weapons just like vehicles with racing stripes are sports cars.
* That you don’t need a gun against invaders because the government will know in plenty of time to issue you whatever weapons you need.
* That Massachusetts is safer with bans on guns which is why Teddy Kennedy has machinegun toting guards.
* That most people can’t be trusted so we should have laws against guns which most people will abide by because they can be trusted.
* That a woman raped and strangled with her panties is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet.
* That guns should be banned because of the danger involved and live reporting from the battlefield which can keep the enemy informed of troop deployments, getting thousands of troops killed and perhaps losing a war, is a protected act that CANNOT be compromised on.
* That the ACLU is good because it uncompromisingly defends certain parts of the Constitution and the NRA is bad because it defends other parts of the Constitution.
* That a house with a gun is three times as likely to have a murder just like a house with insulin is three times as likely to have a diabetic.
* That police operate in groups with backup which is why they need larger capacity magazines than civilians who must face criminals alone and therefore need less ammunition.
* That we should ban “Saturday Night Specials” and other inexpensive guns because it’s not fair that poor people have access to guns too.
* That guns have no legitimate use but alcohol does which is why we issue cops guns instead of beer.
* That police and soldiers are the dregs of society who were unfit to get any real job which perfectly qualifies them with the high moral standards and keen intellects to handle these complicated tools and be our guardians.
* That it’s acceptable to arm a courier at $6 an hour to shoot criminals for stealing bank deposits but unacceptable for a college-educated business owner to do it himself.
* That a registration plan will reduce crime because criminals will register their guns despite the Supreme Court decision Haynes v. U.S. (309 U.S. 85, 1968) that registration violates self-incrimination.
* That it’s reasonable to require proof of a criminal act before an order of protection can be issued and reasonable to assume anyone with a gun will commit a criminal act.
* That teaching abstinence exclusively rather than use of condoms is doomed to fail but encouraging absolute bans on guns rather than education in safe use is the only acceptable method of reducing crime.
* That it is outrageous that civilians have rifles that were designed for the military for self defense but perfectly okay to have polluting, potentially unstable, heavy vehicles that were designed for the military, simply as status symbols.
* That guns are the gravest threat to society because 83,000,000 gun owners didn’t commit a crime yesterday.
* That it is essential to incorporate locks and sensors into guns to make them safer that only a criminal would not support them and cops and federal agents would be exempt for safety reasons.
* That a bank guard can protect money with a gun but you cannot protect your children with one.
* That all gun dealers sell illegal weapons just like all black people sell drugs.
* That crime is higher in urban areas with less guns and we must continue to disarm the minorities in these areas because of the risk of crime and that isn’t bigotry.
* That an underpaid, overworked bodyguard should be glad to throw himself in front of a bullet for you.
* That your safety is someone else’s responsibility but they have no right to tell you how to live your life.
* That guns are useless against tyranny because an armed populace of 160 million cannot defeat an army of 2 million mixed in among it.
* That if the above is true, we should not be terrified of the concept of that government holding control of our lives and freedom at its whim.
* That the piecemeal destruction of the right to keep and bear arms makes the right useless and therefore justifies destroying it further.
* That one should be more afraid of one’s spouse blowing a gasket and shooting the children than of those children being run over by a hormone-driven teenager in a car.
* That people are too stupid to handle guns but are intelligent enough to vote.
* That guns are not an effective means of self-defense which is why police carry them.
* That one can “study” the “gun issue” but know the difference between an assault rifle and a battle rifle.
* That the NRA, with over 3 million members, is “out of touch” with America and HCI with 50 thousand members is a “mandate from the people.”
* That a baseball bat is good protection against a burglar provided his gun fires baseballs.
* That to judge a group by secondhand news and hearsay is bigotry unless that group is the NRA.
* That the National Defense Act of 1916 doesn’t exist.
* That pricing products out of the reach of poor people through excessive regulation is discriminatory practice unless that product is a gun.
* That manufacturers are not responsible for damages caused by their products unless that product is a gun.
* That trigger locks and other devices make guns safer which is why the police and military refuse to use them.
* That registration of guns will help law enforcement because that way they won’t need probable cause and a warrant to conduct a search.
* That registration of guns which makes their existence a matter of public knowledge under the FOIA isn’t dangerous to owners.
* That registration of guns in violation of the McClure-Volkmer Act, and was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court is somehow still legal.
* That private citizens making private sales of private property is a “loophole.”
* That making it harder to get a license to sell firearms legally will reduce the number of people selling illegally.
* That it’s safer to do nothing than resist with a gun which is why the military wins so many wars by not fighting.
* That we must close shooting ranges because of the noise but ban silencers because they are quiet.
* That owning a gun for self-defense indicates an intent to kill just like owning a first aid kit indicates an intent to impersonate a physician.
* That guns are an “epidemic” so we should treat them with penicillin.
* That suggesting teachers be armed is an outrageous suggestion for a “civilized” society which is why the Swiss and Israelis do it.
* That making it harder and harder for even cops to have guns on school property will make it harder for lunatics to kill the utterly helpless students.
* That accidents with a product justify banning the product even though MADD has never called for a ban on alcohol people actively push to legalize drugs and no one wants to ban swimming pools so basically it’s only practical items like guns we should ban and not the luxury items that are essential to human survival.
* That the 14th Amendment requires states to accept each other’s drivers licenses even with age or vision requirement differences, marriage licenses even with age or relationship differences, or if it’s a gay marriage, but somehow doesn’t apply to licenses to carry weapons.
* That people with large gun collections are dangerous especially if they have more than two hands to shoot with.
* That autoloaders are “easily converted” to fully automatic fire and the person telling you this has no idea how it’s accomplished.
* That banning rifles with bayonet lugs will cut down on all the drive-by bayonetings.
* That shooting at an intruder who smashes in your door and enters with knife in hand will somehow “escalate the violence.”
* That it is illegal to use tax money for political campaigning unless it’s to ban guns.
* That it’s safer with less guns which is why lunatics shoot up schools instead of gun shows or police stations.
* That guns cause crime which is why there was no rape or murder in the Dark Ages.
* That stopping the people who don’t commit murder from having guns will lessen the number of those who do.
* Since banning a few guns hasn’t helped we should ban more.
* That just like the anti-nuclear weapons movement if the potential victims disarm the oppressors will take pity on them and give up their weapons in remorse.
* That oppressing gun owners until they violate the law justifies oppressing them further.
* That “crime guns” and old police guns should be destroyed at government expense because the cost of exorcising the evil spirits from them before selling them to lawful owners is exorbitant.
* That raising the legal age to possess firearms from 18 to 21 will REALLY show those 16 year olds.
* That inner-city blacks in public housing should be disarmed to prevent crimes but not rich white suburbanites. And it isn’t a sign of racism.
* That creating firearms crime by having a Byzantine code of firearm laws proves there’s a problem and justifies more laws to create more crime.
* That parents who give guns to problem children to “teach them responsibility” are not responsible for the deaths they cause but everyone else’s guns are.
* That gun owners are a threat by existing that must be destroyed by any means possible and their rights are unimportant but the thugs who attack us on the street who the gun owners wish to be armed against are simply a problem we have to put up with.
* That making it harder to get firearms legally will reduce their illegal use just like making it harder to get a prescription will cut down on the illicit drug trade.
* That it’s tragic when a child dies in a firearms accident and we must pass restrictive laws to prevent it but children poisoned by household chemicals are simply unavoidable accidents.
* That I don’t need a gun therefore no one needs one and I have the right to impose that belief and will on everyone else.
* That stupidity can be cured by legislation.
* That societies with less guns have less killings by guns. Just like societies with less cars have less vehicular homicide.
* That criminals who rob to support their drug habit can afford $65 a minute in ammunition for their automatic “Weapon of choice.”
* That with nationwide gun control the entire nation can be as safe as NYC, LA and Chicago.
* That since a gun isn’t 100% effective for self defense you should get rid of it along with your first aid kit and fire extinguisher since they aren’t 100% effective either.
* That if Chicago were to legalize firearms it would have shootouts in the streets which never happens now.
* That it’s wrong to use tax dollars to finance private political agendas unless that agenda is to ban guns.
* That a “safe gun” will help stop criminal misuse of firearms like “safe sex” works to stop rape.
* That a cop with felonies on his record is safe with a fully automatic weapons and a churchgoing mother with a parking ticket as her worst crime is unfit to use a pistol to protect her child.
* That a suicide who used a gun would still be alive if they’d used a knife or hanged themselves.
* That someone’s suicide is a problem for the rest of us that would be prevented if we gave up our guns.
* That alcohol is acceptable in private as long as the user doesn’t use it while driving. But mere possession of a gun is a threat to others.
* That gun owners are unwilling to compromise which is why there are only 20,000 gun laws in the US.
* That criminals are better shots than civilians because of all the time they spend on the practice range.
* That since criminals are better shots by the logic above one is safer by not shooting back but just waiting for them to run out of ammo.
* That it’s reasonable to assume an accident would have been lethal if the victim wasn’t wearing a seatbelt, and reasonable to assume that an armed defender would have been safe even if they didn’t have a gun.
* That one accidental death is too many but thousands of people dying because the means of self-defense was not available is unavoidable and not worthy of mention.
* That we should ban guns because people have a “right to feel safe” but the right to feel safe by owning firearms for defense is not valid.
* That it’s outrageous to count 18 and 19 year-old parents as “children” for statistical purposes but perfectly acceptable to count them as children for purposes of exaggerating gun deaths among “children.”
* That a zero-tolerance policy is bad regarding drugs but a zero-tolerance policy is good regarding guns.
* That martial arts is a better form of self-defense and can defeat an armed opponent but we still need to ban guns because of the danger they present to those few people who don’t know karate.
* That government officials can be trusted with automatic weapons but private citizens cannot because of the number of people they kill while kicking in doors without search warrants.

You just have to love the logic some people use to try to control the rest of the population. Mostly it is “do as I say, not as I do.” Frankly, that isn’t good enough for me.

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~ by justmytruth on August 13, 2009.

2 Responses to “The Anti-Gun Crowd”

  1. Liberal pea-brains think that a gun makes you evil and if all guns are collected and melted down into stupid park benches we would all live in harmony and peace JUST HOW FAR OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF STUPIDLAND ARE THEY?

  2. I can’t wait till MW2 is released! Just a couple of months now :p I ordered the Prestige edition ^_^

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