It’s Not Torture If They Torture The Words Enough…

One of the things I find most pathetic about the bush administration is their ability to torture the English language. Listen to any bush speech and there is ample proof he hasn’t mastered it yet. But damage control is damage control, no matter how you spin it, and right now they are spinning so hard to keep bush out of this mess that it is almost nauseating.

Reading the justification for the CIA to use torture is another of those instances where you have to just cringe as you watch the mental loops these supposed pillars of society went through to get where they wanted to be, able to torture. These bad boys should have known that We the People would never stand for anything so despicable.

This great nation came to be because the elite of society decided they deserved to live off the backs of those who worked for them and tried to make a living. We didn’t stand for that then, we won’t stand for this now. And who is going to believe someone who has lied to us so many times before? What can he possibly say that would make us trust him again? I’m sure dubya’s daddy will pay enough people off that dubya will skate, free and clear. That saddens me greatly as I think it would do this nation a lot of good to see him punished. He’s been a bad little boy and needs his ass spanked.

Anyway, reading this torture-doj-interrogation-memo-20020801 is very enlightening if you will. I don’t know what else I can call it. What stuns me most is that they actually thought they could do this. I find that incredible. I’ve included it here so you could read it if you wanted to. I am. For instance the first paragraph states…

The PDF was dated August 1, 2002

You have asked for our offices’ view regarding the standards of conduct under the Convention Against Torture and Other, Cruel, Inhumane and Degrading Treatment of Punishment as implemented by Sections 2340-2340A of Title 18 Of the United States Code. As we understand it this question has arisen in the context of the conduct of interrogations Outside of the United States. We conclude below that section 2340A proscribes acts inflicting, and that we specifically intended to inflict pain, severe pain or suffering, Whether mental or physical. Those acts must be of a extreme nature to rise to the level of torture within the meaning of Section 2340A and the Convention. We further conclude that certain acts may be cruel, inhumane, or degrading but still not produce pain or suffering or the requisite intensity to fall within Section 2340A’s prescription against torture. We conclude by examining possible defenses that would negate any claim that certain interrogation methods violate the standards.

The underlined parts are all parts that are underlined on the original document, or what we have for an original document. I’m not accusing anyone of anything, but I can type anything I want to on a page and unless you know better, you can’t tell when it was written. Such is life.

I cannot express to you my sorrow at reading this. That is only one paragraph, not the most important for sure. But that this could be considered by someone in this country, condoned by everyone concerned. Was there no one whom this sickened? Yes, I’m an idealist, I admit it, I love this country with my whole heart, but this? But who knows if this is even true? The White House says it is, but they’ve said a lot of things in the past and I’m no longer trusting where they are concerned.

First of all, everyone’s level of pain tolerance is different. I have a high pain threshold, my friend has a low pain threshold. So torturing everyone the same way is going to get extremes of differences in their responses. Yet, reading this manual you would think each of us is a carbon copy of the other one and so able to be treated the same. And they had Psychiatrists working with them? Seems to me the Psych docs need to be “examined” also. In the second paragraph, this line drew my attention:

For purely mental pain or suffering to amount to torture under Statute 2340A it must result in significant psychological harm, of significant duration E.G. lasting months or even years.

Well, that’s fairly clear isn’t it. I wonder what exactly they used on these men and women to “torture” them??? Because to cause significant harm for a significant duration to last months or even years, must be pretty intense. I can’t imagine what possessed these ?men? to do this kind of crap. But then bush never thought he’d be stopped now did he? He figured he had us all in his little pocket.

According to the WashingtonPost:

Justice Dept. Memo Says Torture ‘May Be Justified’

By Dana Priest
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, June 13, 2004; 6:30 PM

Today is posting a copy of the Aug. 1, 2002, memorandum (PDF) “Re: Standards of Conduct for Interrogation under 18 U.S.C. 2340-2340A,” from the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel for Alberto R. Gonzales, counsel to President Bush.

The memo was written at the request of the CIA. The CIA wanted authority to conduct more aggressive interrogations than were permitted prior to the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. The interrogations were of suspected al Qaeda members whom the CIA had apprehended outside the United States. The CIA asked the White House for legal guidance. The White House asked the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel for its legal opinion on the standards of conduct under the Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhumane and Degrading Treatment or Punishment.

The Office of Legal Counsel is the federal government’s ultimate legal adviser. The most significant and sensitive topics that the federal government considers are often given to the OLC for review. In this case, the memorandum was signed by Jay S. Bybee, the head of the office at the time. Bybee’s signature gives the document additional authority, making it akin to a binding legal opinion on government policy on interrogations. Bybee has since become a judge on the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

They really did try to make this legal didn’t they? And you can just see the tap dance they did with wording and nuance. The article goes on to talk about the other memo that has already been released. They had to know this would come out, they had to. So what don’t they want us to know? What questions aren’t we asking that should be asked here. I have my suspicions, but nothing I can point to and say look at that instead.

I can’t even begin to wonder how to put it right. Certainly the United States of America needs to get out of Iraq and start peace talks with Iran. Since the bush administration has been so good with lies though, who will believe us? We are not him, but did we do enough to make this come to light?

I don’t know but I would love to hope the next president does better. I think we’ve about had a gut full of egomaniacs. Wikipedia’s definition of Egotism fits well I think:

Egotism is the motivation to maintain and enhance favorable views of self. Egotism means placing oneself at the center of one’s world with direct concern for no other.

It is closely related to narcissism, or “loving one’s self,” and the possible tendency to speak or write of oneself boastfully and at great length. Egotism may coexist with delusions of one’s own importance, at the denial of others. This conceit is a character trait describing a person who acts to gain values in an amount excessively greater than that which he/she gives to others. Egotism is often accomplished by exploiting the altruism, irrationality and ignorance of others, as well as utilizing coercive force and/or fraud.

Boy, I’d say that about says it, huh? Hope everyone sleeps well out there, or maybe a bit better now. I just hope it gets better from here.

Another of those things to consider is where this is all going to land, and it will be on the underlings, bet me. We already saw it in the military when regular soldiers doing what they were told, were suddenly outed and expelled and punished. like their superiors didn’t know what they were doing, and didn’t give them the permission they needed to do it in the first place. Shit rolls down hill and always has. Wonder how this pile of crap will land?

~ by justmytruth on April 12, 2008.

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