Real ID, Do-Over?

It appears that Real ID is becoming less popular all the time. CNN’s Lou Dobbs did a piece last night about it. I was really shocked at Lou’s take on the whole thing. Somehow, I just don’t think HE gets what Real ID is all about. Sorry Lou, you are still my favorite!

DOBBS: How times and sentiments change. Three years ago, the United States Senate passed Real ID Act overwhelmingly, you can’t get more overwhelming, in fact, 100-0. The law mandates national standards for driver’s licenses throughout the country. But now one of the Senate’s top Republicans is having second thoughts and is in fact leading a revolt to convince his colleagues to repeal Real ID altogether.

Louise Schiavone has our report.


LOUISE SCHIAVONE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The Senate’s number three Republican is developing an assault on the federal government program to make driver’s licenses a more reliable ID.

SEN. LAMAR ALEXANDER , TENNESSEE: And as a former governor, I hate nothing more than an unfunded federal mandate where somebody in Washington comes up with a big idea, makes it a law and then sends the bill to the governors.

SCHIAVONE: Senator Lamar Alexander of Tennessee was in the Senate when the Real ID Act passed unanimously three years ago. A spokesman says the senator supported the measure because it was attached to a larger bill containing funds for the war in Iraq.

The sponsor of the measure in the House, Wisconsin’s James Sensenbrenner, says that states resisting the Real ID guidelines are just whining about it to get more money out of the federal government.

REP. JAMES SENSENBRENNER , WISCONSIN: I think that my colleagues in both houses recognize that the 9/11 Commission was right when they identified the fact that the 19 hijackers had as many as 63 driver’s licenses between them issued by five states. That was a loophole exploited to our peril.

SCHIAVONE: States have until next Monday to ask the Department of Homeland Security for an extension in implementing the law. All but two states, South Carolina and Maine, have done so. In fact, Maine’s legislature literally ordered the state not to comply, citing cost and privacy concerns, 16 other states have taken similar actions.

DHS says that just doesn’t make sense.

MICHAEL CHERTOFF, HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY: The idea that we should have poor forms of identification that are easily forged and tampered with strikes me as a really bizarre argument.


SCHIAVONE: Lou, the Department of Homeland Security says that holders of licenses from states that don’t express an intention to comply will not be able to use those driver’s licenses for travel ID checks — Lou.

DOBBS: And they won’t be able to go into federal buildings, either, where ID is required.

SCHIAVONE: Or nuclear plants.

DOBBS: Right. Well, unless — not many of us are going to have much need to do that, we hope. But the idea that this is an unfunded mandate, I can almost sympathize with that — as a matter of fact, I can sympathize with it. It seems to me that if it is mandated by federal law, it should be funded by federal law. And it’s not that much money in the scheme of things. It’s easy to say that these days since we’re spending so much federal money.

SCHIAVONE: Well, the federal government did give the states some money, but the argument is that these states should be interested themselves in having secure IDs because it keeps their own roads safe.

Huh? With our borders wide open, just HOW does Real ID keep our ROADS safe? Am I missing something here? And I’m all for SECURE ID’s but NOT being tagged as any animal might be. And I really don’t think I’ll be going to any Nuclear facilities any time soon…

DOBBS: Yes. I think that a lot of these states — I mean, you know, for example, you mentioned Maine, I mean, they’d just as soon give driver’s licenses away to illegal aliens. They’re not really too concerned about national security. They’re not too concerned about the national interest or doing the right thing. There are some pretty expedient governor’s offices out there.

SCHIAVONE: Well, they say they’re trying to step up to the requirements that the federal government thinks are attractive. And in fact, DHS is still talking tonight about it.

DOBBS: Well, they ought to talk to them about it, because every one of the governors who hasn’t got the sense to do what is best for his or her citizens and do what’s best at the same time for national security and the national interest, they’re a bunch of just weaselly (ph), measle (ph)-mouthed son of a guns anyway.

I cannot believe Lou said this! Apparently Lou doesn’t understand the implications of Real ID or the correlation to Nazi Germany. Papers, got your papers? Vie ist vatching you! For once, Lou and I disagree! Not to mention the Radio Frequency Chip that is implanted in them.

SCHIAVONE: Well, one of their spokesmen asked me if you were going to say something about their governor.

DOBBS: Well, I guess, you know, if it fits, there it is. But I hope not. I hope we’re talking about a thoughtful, patriotic, concerned public servant who will do the right thing for all citizens in this country. Louise, how is that? Do you think the governor would appreciate that better?

SCHIAVONE: I think that they like that better than being called an idiot outright.

DOBBS: Well, I hope that they won’t deserve such an exclamation or definition. Thank you very much, Louise Schiavone. SCHIAVONE: Thanks, Lou.

Here are some facts about Real ID

Drivers License and REAL ID, what really to ask the HORs (House of Representatives)

What is the real requirement for this type of ID card, if for private travel a license is not required unless there is a proof of contract to do business on the road?

North Carolina General Statutes

§ 1‑45. No title by possession of public ways.

No person or corporation shall ever acquire any exclusive right to any part of a public road, street, lane, alley, square or public way of any kind by reason of any occupancy thereof or by encroaching upon or obstructing the same in any way, and in all actions, whether civil or criminal, against any person or corporation on account of an encroachment upon or obstruction or occupancy of any public way it shall not be competent for a court to hold that such action is barred by any statute of limitations. (1891, c. 224; Rev., s. 389; C.S., s. 435.)

Want to know what the DOT (Department of Transportation) is, read below carefully:

North Carolina Department Of Transportation

1 S Wilmington St, Raleigh, NC 27601-1453, United States
Phone: (919) 733-2520
SIC:Regulation and Administration of Transportation Programs
Line of Business:Department Of Transportation
Detailed North Carolina Department Of Transportation Company Profile

This company profile is for the private company North Carolina Department Of Transportation, headquarters located in Raleigh, NC. North Carolina Department Of Transportation’s line of business is department of transportation.

Year Started:1971
Contact Name:Lindo Tippett
Contact Title:Secretary

Data above provided by Dunn & Bradstreet.

It is the same all the way around, search for yourself and you will find that it will show the DOT’s Parent Company will be the EXECUTIVE offices of the State of North Carolina.

Folks it is all about the money and the people at the top who enslave you to the bitter end.

Edited by Myk on Feb 26, 2008 at 11:37 PM

Someone please explain to me HOW this keeps our ID’s safer? The DOT is inept at best. Most of the time their projects run behind schedule and cause major delays. So how does REAL ID make us safer?

National ID Cards Won’t Stop Terrorism or Illegal Immigration

May 9, 2005

The US House of Representatives passed a spending bill last week that contains provisions establishing a national ID card, and the Senate is poised to approve the measure in the next few days. This week marks the American public�s last chance to convince their Senators they don�t want to live in a nation that demands papers from its citizens as they go about their lives.

Absent a political miracle in the Senate, within two years every American will need a conforming national ID card to participate in ordinary activities. This REAL ID Act establishes a massive, centrally-coordinated database of highly personal information about American citizens: at a minimum their name, date of birth, place of residence, Social Security number, and physical characteristics. The legislation also grants open-ended authority to the Secretary of Homeland Security to require biometric information on IDs in the future. This means your harmless looking driver�s license could contain a retina scan, fingerprints, DNA information, or radio frequency technology.

Think this sounds far fetched? Read the REAL ID Act, HR 418, for yourself. Its text is available on the Library of Congress website. A careful reading also reveals that states will be required to participate in the �Drivers License Agreement,� which was crafted by DMV lobbyists years ago. This agreement creates a massive database of sensitive information on American citizens that can be shared with Canada and Mexico!

Terrorism is the excuse given for virtually every new power grab by the federal government, and the national ID is no exception. But federal agencies have tried to create a national ID for years, long before the 9-11 attacks. In fact, a 1996bill sought to do exactly what the REAL ID Act does: transform state drivers’ licenses into de facto national ID cards. At the time, Congress was flooded with calls by angry constituents and the bill ultimately died.

Proponents of the REAL ID Act continue to make the preposterous claim that the bill does not establish a national ID card. This is dangerous and insulting nonsense. Let’s get the facts straight:

The REAL ID Act transforms state motor vehicle departments into agents of the federal government. (Will these people have the training and psychological make-up to handle this responsibility?)

Nationalizing standards for driver’s licenses and birth certificates in a federal bill creates a national ID system, pure and simple.

Having the name of your particular state on the ID is meaningless window dressing.

A few more things to know about Real ID…

YouTubeReal ID – A Real Nightmare

From ACLU.TV: The federal Real ID Act may be on its way to var mb1=ManyBox.register(‘1′,2,’A-zaOp-TqCQJ’,”,’6a46′,21,’Watch video’,’Hide video’)


Watch video – 1 min 25 sec

YouTube – New Hampshire REAL ID Protest

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Watch video – 8 min Ordering pizza in the future

Humorous (?) take on what it might be like to order a pizza, before too long…from the ACLU

Well, I think that about covers things from my end. Anyone with any comments I’d love to hear them.

~ by justmytruth on March 28, 2008.

2 Responses to “Real ID, Do-Over?”

  1. Thank you very much for your input. I love your response. I’ll be sure to check out your blog while I’m out and about. Thanks for keeping track of this REAL issue.

  2. You are right on, 10 years ago Lou would have been very much against this. The problem is that he bought into the very superficial way REAL ID is somehow presented, that is, as some finite new law that make it harder for illegals to get licenses. That was a con job PR line that many bought hook line and sinker because they were so mad about illegals, they bought into the PREMSISE without looking at the details. And without considering that it is the same group of people who are pushing REAL ID that have refused to close the borders or take any real action of any knid. One could even argue that they let things get bad on purpose just to create a climate where this would be accepted. It is a federal blank check. We will have to see if Lou has the fortitude to really look at something and change his mind when he has made a mistake. Or maybe he is in favor of a national ID card that puts the feds permamently in charge of licenses? We’ll have to see if he wants RFID in his license, or his biometrics shared with Candada and Mexico. He claims he likes Ron Paul’s stance on immigration. Someone needs to clue Lou in that Paul hates REAL ID and recognizes it for what it is.

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