Pro-Amnesty, Telling Lies
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It seems there is nothing that pro-amnesty individuals won’t do to make their point, including telling lies, using emotional blackmail, calling names, and generally being both vocal and insulting at the same time. They haven’t a leg to stand on and so resort to these tactics to dissuade others from thinking for themselves. It is ugly behavior, but when you haven’t a leg to stand on, you can make up what ever you want to just to make your point. Don’t bother me with the facts… Don’t bother me with the laws… If you don’t agree with me, (pro-amnesty) you are a racist and a hate-crimes organizer. Or so they would have you believe. See my post on Racism and Hate Crimes.
Now the pro-illegals are coming after CNN’s Lou Dobbs. Their ignorance and lies starting to show just how badly their position truly is. Sadly their fanaticism has nothing to do with logic or common sense or anything but a demand that the rest of us give them what they want regardless of the fact that it is for criminals.
From CNN’s Lou Dobbs I bring you the news…
DOBBS: The pro-amnesty lobby at it again, telling all-out lies about my position on illegal immigration and our border security crisis. The latest example of the pro-illegal aliens’ movements’ lies coming in a letter to the “Wall Street Journal” today. Douglas Rivlin, director of communication for the National Immigration Forum, says quote, “research by attorney Greg Siskind suggests that 96 times Lou Dobbs talked about legal immigration on his nightly CNN show, dating back to 2001, 92 times he painted legal immigration in a negative light.”
Well, Mr. Rivlin, here’s a little research you might add to your own. The vast majority of Greg Siskind’s analysis is based on my justified criticism of abuses in the system for temporary work visas, specifically H1B visas in nearly every case, not legal immigration. As for other cases cited by Mr. Siskind, who, by the way is, as you might guess, an immigration lawyer, we highlighted legitimate concerns about chain migration, terrorism, fraudulent asylum applications, as well.
For the record, I am absolutely supportive of legal immigration. In fact, I favor even higher levels of legal immigration when it suits public policy. Let me repeat — we are the most welcoming nation in the world for immigrants and I’ve consistently called for an increase in legal immigration when warranted.
And also for the record, we should point out that the National Immigration Forum is supported by groups such as — are you ready — the National Restaurant Association, the American Nursery and Landscape Association, and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, all groups that we should point out, that have a vested interest in importing as much cheap labor into this country as possible, and by the way, the “Wall Street Journal” failed to note that. And, of course, that’s understandable, too.
Not surprising since in this debate only the emotional blackmail card can and will get used. Now I guess they feel the need to outright LIE about people who have a different view, or people who want to see LEGAL IMMIGRATION encouraged. It would hamper the illegals too much.
I’m glad we don’t have to stoop to their level. But I wonder how they sleep at night. Here is a situation where the means justifies the end. And as I always say: I’ve even seen them twist things to indicate that they are the only rational speakers on the issue. However, that isn’t so. They like to go wandering all over the planet to prove their points instead of sticking to the subject or the United States. It is very sad but not unexpected. I’ve seen it happen many, many times before.
IF YOU HAVE TO JUSTIFY YOURSELF OR YOUR VIEWS, YOU ALREADY KNOW YOU ARE WRONG…
It is too bad that these groups have to resort to lies in order to make themselves feel good, or better, than the rest of us. It certainly doesn’t improve their positions or their credibility. But then, if they had a leg to stand on legally, they would use that. Since they don’t, well lies, innuendos, untruths, and disinformation will be their weapons of choice…
It is also very disturbing that our Justice system is taking SO long on freeing Ramos and Compean. I do not understand why, with the illegalities performed by the prosecutor, this case hasn’t been overturned already. But, here is the story as Lou Dobbs presented it:
DOBBS:Turning now to the case of imprisoned border patrol agents Ramos and Compean, the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals heard arguments to overturn their convictions some five months ago, and a decision has been awaited of course since. Attorneys expected a decision within two to three months, yet, there is still no ruling from the appellate court.
Tonight, supporters of Ramos and Compean are calling for a national day of prayer for the agents’ release. Casey Wian has our story.
WIAN: Family members, fellow border patrol agents, and a U.S. Congressman are asking Americans to say a prayer this Sunday for imprisoned former border patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean.
REP. DANA ROHRABACHER (R), CALIFORNIA: This is a call from our hearts to try to save two men; two brave people who risked their lives for us, who are now languished in prison, whose families are bearing a horrible burden.
MONICA RAMOS, WIFE OF IGNACIO RAMOS: As we pray for my husband, I will start that day off as a single parent, that day, facing with our families, acknowledging motherhood, and it weighs heavy on my heart to know that my husband won’t be there with me.
WIAN: Five months ago, the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals heard arguments that the agents’ convictions for wounding a drug smuggler, then covering up the shooting, should be thrown out. Defense attorneys say the judge in the case should have allowed testimony about the drug smuggling history of Osvaldo Aldrete Davila, the shooting victim. Instead, prosecutors gave Aldrete Davilaimmunity to testify against the border patrol agents. He has since pled guilty to smuggling drugs while that deal was still in place.
T.J. BONNER, PRES., NAT’L BORDER PATROL COUNCIL: These were good, decent, hard-working, law enforcement officers who are out there doing their job, risking their lives to protect our borders, to protect our country from the scourge of illegal drugs and in thanks now they’re spending 11 and 12 years in prison. This is just unfathomable.
WIAN: Ramos and Compean’s attorneys also argue the agents should never have been charged under a weapons law intended to target drug traffickers, which resulted in a 10-year mandatory federal prison sentence for the agents. During the December appellate court hearing, one judge said he believes prosecutors quote, “overreacted” while another said prosecution claims that Aldrete Davila was just a low- level drug deal quote “defied common sense in the real world.”
WIAN: Now, as you mentioned, Lou, attorneys originally estimated it would take from 60 to 90 days for the three-judge panel to decide this appeal. It has now been more than 150 days. And one person who’s involved in this case says the reason it is likely taking so long is that the case — both cases are very, very complex, and the attorneys for the two agents are alleging so many errors were committed during the original trial that it’s taking the judges a long time to address each of those alleged errors. Lou.
DOBBS: Well, Casey, this is where I say something like, the opinion you’re about to hear is mine and no one else’s. The idea that a drug dealer — an illegal alien drug dealer — given immunity, was dealing — smuggling — drugs, and the prosecutor who sought — gave this same illegal alien drug smuggler immunity to testify against sworn law enforcement agents of this country is absolutely — it’s insane that it would take this long for any appellate court to rule on it. There is nothing complicated about that. That’s pure stupidity.
WIAN: What some of the people involved in this case are saying is that there are 26 specific challenges, 12 by one of the agents, 14 by the other agent and that these judges are having to address in writing each one of these specific concerns. They fully expect that no matter what decision they make it’s going to be appealed to the Supreme Court. And like all judges, these federal judges don’t want to see their decision overturned by the Supreme Court, so they’re trying to be very, very careful here, Lou, but it is obviously incredibly frustrating for the agents and their families.
DOBBS: As it well should be. It should be incredibly frustrating and disgusting to every citizen of this country. The idea that a prosecutor brought charges against a guy that he — and then — brought charges against this Aldrete Davila, finally, after knowing that there had been three commissions of crimes by that same person he had given immunity to, as he testified against, U.S. law enforcement agents, what should be the consequence of that?
What should be the consequence of that trial judge applying the weapons law to a law enforcement officer to whom it was never even remotely fantasized as being the subject of that law? I mean this is crazy. Those — on those two grounds alone, this is straight-forward. It should be overturned.
WIAN: A lot of people agree with you, Lou. A lot of things about this case defy explanation. We’re just going to have to keep waiting.
DOBBS: Well, I don’t know about anybody else, but I can guarantee you, I’ve had a belly full, and I cannot believe what they’re putting these two agents and their families through. It is absolutely disgusting. It’s embarrassing. It’s shameful. Casey thanks. Casey Wian.
And I couldn’t agree more. I think the prosecutor in this case should be fired and disbarred. I think the judge who assigned the weapons charges should be disbarred. After all, when part of your job demands you have a gun, how in the world can you be charged for something that is part of your job??? This stinks to high heavens to me and is more of the same mentality that says we should throw open our borders and stop enforcing existing laws. BULLSHIT!
All of this just goes into the realm of the ridiculous! That Ramos and Compean are still behind bars is an outrage against all those who hold with the Laws and enforcement of those laws. And I think a background check into the pasts of the judge and the prosecutor are in order. There is so much violent crime associated with illegal immigrants, I don’t understand not having these people deported.
DOBBS: Here we go. The FBI arrested 10 illegal aliens in New Mexico. That in connection with an investigation of a human smuggling ring. Federal authorities say the leaders of that ring brought dozens of illegal aliens into the United States and then helped them obtain driver’s licenses using fake documents. As Bill Tucker now reports, many of those illegal aliens are from nations on the national security watch list.
BILL TUCKER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The FBI says it’s not sure of the size of the smuggling ring discovered in New Mexico, but they believe the ring has been operating for perhaps a year, and that dozens of illegal aliens from countries of quote “special interest” have fake identities obscured by New Mexico driver’s licenses. Agents call the security breach a matter of quote “profound concern,” admitting that they don’t know the real identities of the 10 illegal aliens they arrested last week, adding that the smuggling ring was not run by amateurs.
DARRIN JONES, FBI SPOKESMAN: Clearly, it was an organized group. In this particular situation, we’re still looking at it. We know there are links to the East Coast.
TUCKER: New Mexico is among a handful of states that grant driver’s licenses to illegal aliens by not requiring proof of lawful status. Maryland and Washington State have similar standards, and so do Maine and Oregon, but Oregon adopts stricter standards this summer and Maine this fall. The failure to have secure standards for driver’s licenses creates a vulnerability.
BRIAN ZIMMER, COAL. FOR SECURE DRIVER’S LICENSE: Let me just put it this way — the green light is on in New Mexico, Oregon, Maine, just a couple other states.
TUCKER: The New Mexico Department of Motor Vehicles does not see this breach as a state problem. A spokesman issued this statement:
Quote, “The federal government is slowly but surely trying to transfer responsibility for border security in immigration to the state and local level. That’s the policy that’s not working.”
TUCKER: Now the human smuggling ring was exposed by a vigilant DMV worker who alerted authorities when two people appeared to be using fraudulent documents and they were. It was just five years ago in 2003 that Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico signed the measure into law allowing illegal aliens to obtain driver’s licenses in his state. And Lou, ironically, the deciding factor that he cited in signing that measure was public safety.
DOBBS: Oh, Bill Richardson.
TUCKER: Yeah.
DOBBS: This is the man that James Carville called Judas in reference to…
TUCKER: The same guy, yeah.
DOBBS: Yeah. Well, it turns out he just doesn’t portray political candidates, doesn’t it? Amazing, Bill, thank you very much. Bill Tucker.
To contact this moron:
Gov. Bill Richardson
Office of the Governor
490 Old Santa Fe Trail
Room 400
Santa Fe, NM 87501
Or, click here:
I’ve already sent him my thoughts on this issue. Of course, he doesn’t agree, that’s all right, it is still a free country. What needs to happen though is that people like him need to be gotten out of office. Recalls work, but next time, just don’t vote him in… For public safety reasons of course!!!
DOBBS:The Arizona State Legislature tonight is considering a so-called guest worker program. That’s right, I said the state. The measure would allow employers who claim they have a labor shortage to bring workers from Mexico into Arizona. If it were to pass, the Arizona law would still have to be approved by the federal government before it could be enacted.
Gets a little cumbersome, doesn’t it? Makes you kind of wonder what they’re doing. Well, Congressman John Shadegg of Arizona supports this proposal and he believes — believes — he believes the plan would ease the strain on the border. Of course he believes a lot of things that don’t make a lot of sense to a lot of people in my opinion, of course. If people, he says, could cross lawfully, the motivation for them to cross illegally would drop. Now, I’d like you to think about what he just said.
If they could cross the border lawfully, the motivation for them to cross illegally would drop. I’m telling you, some of the people in Congress — <extreme sarc> I don’t know about you, but in my opinion, I have to say, some of our elected officials inspire me with their brilliance. I mean, you can’t just come up with a thought like that overnight. </extreme sarc>
Well, time now for some of your thoughts. <deleted by Justmytruth> . “Lou, I am so tired of hearing that our immigration system is broken. Our immigration system, much like or TV sets, DVD players, automobiles, etc, do not work if they are not turned on. We can make new laws but unless they are enforced they will be broken, too.”
An excellent point. And just about everything in Washington, DC, is broken or turned off.
I’ve created a word doc that has a list of ALL Arizona Legislators. You can download it Here: arizona-state-senate
We seriously need to start getting on top of these idiots and let them know how we feel about this crap. If those in business would pay a living wage, there would be NO NEED for the importation of more outside workers. Do your part in letting them know what you desire. This is YOUR JOB! Don’t leave it to others to do. Business is making SURE that their needs are taken care of and yours are NOT! Only you can prevent more of the same old same old! Without your calls or emails these business have no hindrance to their agenda.
Let’s start going after the businesses and those who RENT to illegal aliens. That will stem the flow. We’ll make sure this isn’t about race, but about Law and Order and the American Way.
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